Mortal Realm - 2026

Void Signal welcomes back Adam Jones of Mortal Realm (formerly HAEX) for an intimate, wide ranging conversation with Brian Prime and guest co-host Emily from Moon Burns Productions. The episode explores creativity, vulnerability, live performance, and the emotional weight behind Mortal Realm’s music, with thoughtful detours into nostalgia, self-care, and what it means to stay honest in dark electronic art.

Featured Songs:
Mortal Realm - With A Heavy Heart

Visit https://mortalrealm.bandcamp.com/ for more Mortal Realm. 

Void Signal intro courtesy of Processor. Visit https://processor2.bandcamp.com for more Processor.

Transcript

Hello again and welcome back to Void Signal. I am Brian Prime and this episode is a discussion with myself, Adam Jones, the creative force behind the industrial darkwave project Mortal Realm, and formerly of HAEX, along with my co-host for this episode, Emily from the East, a friend of mine and fellow journalist who has worked with Moon Burns Productions. 
Adam V. Jones is a Seattle-based industrial/goth/post-punk musician and composer known for his unique spin on dark electronic sounds, there's a deliberate thoughtfulness the sparks out of Adam's creative outlets, nothing is out of place and every detail worth noticing. His solo project Mortal Realm fuses a lot of styles and textures together to create something unique, yet familiar. Mortal Realm’s debut album Stab in the Dark (2024) and subsequent singles demonstrate Adam's ability to change from style to style while maintaining a signature that sets him apart. Before Mortal Realm, Jones was a founding member of Haex, an industrial-rooted project formed with Sarah Graves in Los Angeles, known for weaving esoteric themes with heavy electronics. He's played live with genre legends like Leather Strip, headlined Mechanimus Festival, and will be headlining at SINTH Fest in Portland in February.
Adam's also a creative, friendly, and smart fellow. I had the pleasure of his company backstage for much of Mechanismus and he was always a delight to be around. And he remixed the Void Signal theme song for several episodes, including this one. It's with great pride that I welcome him back on the show. 
Void Signal's intro is courtesy of Processor with a special remix by mortal realm, visit processor2.bandcamp.com and name your own price for all of Johan's catalog. And visit mortalrealm.bandcamp.com for more Mortal Realm. He's wonderfully talented and could always use your support. You can also stream Processor and Mortal Realm anywhere you find music. 
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Okay, that's it again. Thank you so much for your time in a busy world, it's an honor to host Void Signal for you. Until next time, you know what to do. 


Emily: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like that's why I'm, I'm scared to get a switch to and like, buy any Zelda game 'cause yeah. Hello again. Hey. 

Adam Jones: Hi. 

Emily: Hey. How's it going? How's it going? Mortal around boy.

This is 

Adam Jones: Emily. Oh, okay. I know you're from online. 

Emily: Yeah. Oh, yes. You remember? You 

Adam Jones: remember? Yeah. We have seen it. Were you at the, your la 

Emily: your first show? 

Adam Jones: Yeah. You were at the, um, the mechanism show for sure. Mm-hmm. But I [00:06:00] think we've seen each other at least one other place since that. 

Emily: Not in person. 

Adam Jones: Not in person.

Emily: Not in person, okay. I know I look like a lot of people. 

Adam Jones: No, not your union. Unique. Actually, I'm, I'm just lying. That's what saying, 

Emily: you know, you've seen me online so many times. You know, you talked to my co-host, um, before I started doing the lunar confessions, uh, Eric on Moon Burns, and that might, that may have been before Mechanisms actually.

Adam Jones: Oh yeah. Like, 

Emily: yeah. 

Adam Jones: I like Eric. Yeah. 

Emily: Yeah. He's a sweetheart. He's a sweetheart. Emily's, uh, 

Brian Prime: a bit of a journalist herself. She's, uh. Probably better at it than I am, to be honest. Um, but oh, 

Emily: shut up. No, I'm not.

Brian Prime: Nope, nope. 

Emily: Lies. 

Brian Prime: All right. Well, let's go ahead and get this rolling. Thank you so much for joining us.

Pleasure to see you. Of course. Um, happy to 

Adam Jones: be here again. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. So, uh, I'll just do a quick intro. We'll get started. So welcome to Void Signal. This is an episode with Adam Jones of Mortal Realm. I'm joined by my co-host and friend Emily. And yeah, thank you so [00:07:00] much for making this work. I appreciate your time very much.

Real quick before we get started, I'm gonna just say that I'm a big fan of your music. I just put out a void signal episode today using your fantastic remix of my intro song and oh, that was fun. Yeah. Thank you so much for that. It was so rad. Like, it's, it's always fun to like, hear interpretations of like, uh, a piece of music that's kind of near and dear to my heart a little bit.

But your new single is fantastic. It was a pleasure to see your debut performance and mechanisms. You blew the roof off that fucking place. But, uh, yeah man, it's good to see you again. How are things 

Adam Jones: likewise? Things are actually pretty good. I, I actually got a little bit of a sore throat.

You probably can't tell. I, I try to take good care of it, obviously, 'cause of the, the way I sang, I got stuff to record, you know? Mm-hmm. 

Emily: And I got 

Adam Jones: like, shows to do is I need to take care of myself, which I, I try to do.

Brian Prime: Yeah. Nice. Kinda a run mug. Yeah. Nice. And I know that you I want to say that I [00:08:00] saw you say something re not that long ago about maybe getting into voice acting a little bit.

Adam Jones: I've been interested in getting into voice sectoring, but the thing that I put out was, I guess a little bit misinterpreted. I was working with a voice actor for a sample that I needed, and it was a kind of a big time voice actor. They actually made it on, on rot, the new single. 

Emily: Ooh, really? 

Adam Jones: Yeah.

So one of the samples, I, I couldn't find what I needed, so I hired a voice actor and they did a great job. 

Brian Prime: Gotcha. And, uh, are you gonna try and pursue voice acting at some point in the future yourself? 

Adam Jones: Oh my goodness. I would, I would jump at the chance to do more stuff, honestly. Um, it's really fun. I've done it before, but I haven't done it professionally, but, uh, but I like doing voice stuff.

I, I'm doing a person to myself all day long. Talking on the phone all day long. So it, it's fun. I like that kind of stuff. 

Brian Prime: Yeah, me too. I, it's a thing I have an interest in as well, [00:09:00] um, because I like doing, you know, dumb voices and like, you know, making up stupid voices for people. It's great. And it helps get your point across.

Like if you're telling a story and you're like, ah, and then this person said this thing and you do like a stupid voice for them, like, ah, it helps sell like the, your point so much more of like, ah, that person's an idiot. It's also just a good storytelling trick. Like if you do voices, people will be more engaged with or just change your tone a little bit.

People will be more engaged with what you're saying. Yeah. Anyway, quick aside there about fucking storytelling and whatever. Mm-hmm. Um. Anyway. Real quick before we get into any other Mortal Realy, Adam Jonesy kind of a stuff breaking news, I just completely irrelevant to most people. But are you familiar, you're familiar with, you're a nerd, you're familiar with Warhammer 40 K?

Adam Jones: Yes. 

Brian Prime: Okay. Total War, war Hammer 40 K was just announced and I am overly excited, but it got Emily and I talking about [00:10:00] how video games are such a guilty pleasure anymore of like every single time I feel like I give any time to it, I'm wasting it when I could be using it to further my creative endeavor or my what, myself or whatever.

Uh, do you feel that way? 

Adam Jones: Yeah. I mean, it's. I have had that notion before, but I tell myself also that it's self-care. Like I feel like I have some sort of Winchester syndrome where if I'm not being productive, it's just a waste of time. If I'm like in a hammock relaxing, that's a waste of time. Don't do that.

You know? Really quick, is my video lagging? Does this sound like I'm doing a little 

Emily: bit, but your audio sounds good. 

Brian Prime: Yeah, your 

Adam Jones: audio sounds good. Oh, I could do like, why did you kill my father?

So good. The Kungfu movies? 

Emily: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder if I could switch. It looks you, you look, you look like you're dubbed, let's just say that. Yeah. You 

Adam Jones: look dubbed. Yeah. That's awesome. I'm gonna Cool. Try to switch my cameras. Sure. Nice. While I do that. 

Emily: I know. I was the question again. Thanks for [00:11:00] mentioning it.

'cause I wasn't, I was worried. It was only on my end, but I was 

Brian Prime: worried that too. I was like, shit is my. Oh, oh, that's, oh, damn. That's a, I get to see a bunch of jumping in the back. This one? No, I like this one way better because it 

Adam Jones: well lit. 

Brian Prime: No, I like this one better because it looks like this is 2004 and Yeah.

You know, it's a little, it's a little grainy. Security cam. 

Emily: Security cam footage. 

Brian Prime: It looks like your room smells like patchouli. 

Adam Jones: It smells like dragons bowl right now. I got a dragons I a candle from my, my wife for my birthday. 

Brian Prime: Oh, nice. Oh yeah, that's right. Your birthday was this week or, oh, yeah. 

Adam Jones: Happy 

Emily: belated 

Adam Jones: birthday two days ago.

Thank you. Yeah. 

Brian Prime: Birthday. How, how old are you? I'm 42. 42. 

Adam Jones: Okay. Alright. 

Brian Prime: Is that an offensive question? Like, anymore, like, who cares? You know, I would've preferred 

Adam Jones: you to ask me on the better camera where I had better, better look. Well, 

Emily: well, I hope it's okay. You can only ask me this question 

Brian Prime: from my good angle.

Emily: [00:12:00] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I, can I say we are all the same age at the moment? Yeah. Hey, cool. Yeah. At right now? For now? Yeah. Really good 

Brian Prime: at this moment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And our back pain or whatever. It's a guilty 

Adam Jones: pleasure thing. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. Go on. Mm-hmm. 

Adam Jones: Uh, I remember the, the question. Sorry. I feel like I'm had a lot of coffee today.

Um, I tell myself that it's, uh, that it's self-care because like that's, I'm a little bit neurodivergent and that's how I meditate. I get lost in a world and I accomplish little tasks that give me a little bit of dopamine and that's cool. That's good for me. I don't necessarily feel like. Like it, once I reflect on it, that I'm wasting my time at all.

I doing something that makes me happy and I still have plenty of other time to be creative and be productive. And my house is mostly clean except for the boxes that I was hiding earlier. But uh, but yeah, I think if you need that escape, then that's absolutely good for you. 

Emily: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

No, I like that.

Thank you for making me feel better about all of [00:13:00] the many, many, many hours I wasted as a youth. 

Adam Jones: Yeah. What did you have a favorite? 

Emily: Oh, I mean, I was a Nintendo girly, so I mean like Zelda and Mario Card and all of that. And I played up to, I'd say like senior year of college. And then I was like, oh, I gotta get a job and I gotta like, you know, do all the things and yeah.

And I just hung it up. Never, never went back. So 

Adam Jones: if we are the same age, was it, uh, linked to the past that you were about? 

Emily: Gosh, I'm trying to remember. I think I had the first, we. So maybe I did play a little after college, like before I was completely gainfully employed. Um, and I can't even remember, was it Win Weeker?

Uh, geez, I can't, I think that was the one 

Adam Jones: that was uh, that was out around that time. 

Emily: Yeah. Yeah. And that was the last time. And I've seen like play throughs of like whatever the latest one is and I'm like, oh my God, this would eat up a year of my time. 

Adam Jones: It's dangerous. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. Was there a [00:14:00] game in your youth that sort of, uh, stuck with you or spoke to you in some way that just, you still sort of think about if you think about like your younger years of like, I played so much of this game and I got such joy out of it.

Is there one that springs to mind 

Adam Jones: me? 

Brian Prime: Yeah. Bo, both of you. 

Adam Jones: Oh, I would say hands down, quick two. Uh, quick two is my jam. I, I used to make skins and maps for it. I made levels of, oh no, shit. Like everything I did like my house, my school castles, like, everything like that. Oh my gosh. I played, we even got some, so 

Brian Prime: much quake two with like rando downloaded skins and shit, you know, yeah.

It was great. 

Adam Jones: And 

Brian Prime: I, I was, that's when I was 

Adam Jones: getting into graphic design, so it was easy for me to, to start doing the skins for that. And I even made like mapped textures and. Like took pictures of things and like made it a texture and then put it on the, on the walls. It was great. Wow. 

Brian Prime: Damn. That's 

Emily: awesome.

That's right. What a great idea. I was not that creative, but I also didn't play [00:15:00] those kind of games. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. I played a lot of quake, uh, moed quake with like, uh, I found somebody had made like a Johnny the Hummon maniac in, and it was like I had it. I didn't make that. I had it. Yeah, I had it too. Yeah.

That was the one I played as. And, uh, yeah, man, so many hours. Uh, just playing on like private servers and shit, just, 

Adam Jones: uh, it, it had a low poly count, so you didn't get hit as much if on, if you were like the whiteboard character or something like that. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. A lot of 

Adam Jones: people played as the female characters because they had a lower polycount and they had a smaller target to hit.

Brian Prime: Yep. Yeah, exactly right. So, okay. Quite two 

Adam Jones: knee would've been pretty small being skinny shit. Yeah. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. Uh, Emily, is there one that stands out for you? 

Emily: I mean like just a, for whatever reason, it just ate up like maybe an entire year when I was like a sophomore in college. 'cause my boyfriend at the time was also into it.

I got an emulator for like, uh, 'cause I didn't have an Sega. I was only ever, like, I had to pick a lane. I had to pick a system. So I only ever had Nintendos. But in college I got an emulator for Sega. I [00:16:00] was playing, uh, the Dune movie. Uh, you know, you build your own army, you know, you pick like Har Conan tradies, whatever, and you just build your own army.

And it was just, I forget what the hell it was called, but like, it had these cinematic cut scenes, uh, supposedly from the movie, the David Lynch film. Uh, and that was like the nerdiest thing. And me and Mike. Roommate and our and uh, my boyfriend, my roommate's boyfriend, you know, like the four of us would just like Yeah.

Nerd out a lot. Yeah. 

Brian Prime: I've been thinking recently about, and part of what prompted me to ask this question was I was thinking about, I played a lot of legacy of Kane Soul Reaver and it had this great soundtrack by Kurt Harlan from Information Society and uh, kind of a dark, I didn't know that Ky sort of fantasy story.

Yeah, dude. If you've not heard it, it's the shit like, uh, there's a track called I know, I 

Adam Jones: know the, sorry. 

Brian Prime: Oh, I was, if [00:17:00] you are familiar with Information Society at all, like the, there's a track from Don't Be Afraid, that's like on the soundtrack, but Yeah. Yeah, check it out. It's good. He also did the soundtrack for like X-Men 90, the X-Men Super Nintendo game or some shit like that.

And it has bangers on it. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Yeah, I remember 

Adam Jones: like arcades revenge on Super Nintendo. That was fun. 

Brian Prime: Oh yeah. Good stuff. 

Adam Jones: I'm not sure if that was that. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. Anyway, sorry to derail about video games and nostalgia and guilty pleasures and all that. It's gonna start becoming a video game podcast, 

Emily: you know?

Yeah. 

Brian Prime: But I do appreciate your, it could easily. Yeah. Uh, but I do appreciate your answer of like, you know, it's self care. It's not necessarily like a thing you should feel terribly guilty for. Mm-hmm. Um, but I do want to kind of ship back to you for a second. So your, uh, recent singles have been fantastic.

Rot and decomposed and uh, with Heavy Heart. With a heavy Heart, with a heavy heart is, it's all [00:18:00] seems very in line with sort of what you've established on the album. And I'm assuming that this is the direction you'll continue to go forward with. Like moral realm seems like a very grim and serious.

Adam Jones: Yeah. I mean, I'm not sure if with the heavy heart was super serious 'cause like it's got cheesy lyrics and I know it's got cheesy lyrics, but it's also got like really soul felt lyrics at the same time. It just is portrayed as a possible cheese factor, but, uh, I don't wanna put myself in a box or close any doors or have aick or something like that.

I, I'd like it to be uniform to a degree so people recognize my work, particularly my vocal range. You know, I'm hoping that someone whatever, I'll save my dreams for later. But but uh, yeah, it's, it's gonna stay like a multi genre industrial project. It's going to be mostly industrial, which is a lot of dark stuff.

I talk about death a lot. You know, I talk about, uh, inner turmoil and uh, things like that, a, a [00:19:00] whole lot. And I, I'll probably keep on doing that 'cause it's, it's something I think about a lot. I'm a happy guy, but still think about it a lot. 

Brian Prime: Yeah, an 

Adam Jones: event. 

Brian Prime: Continue writing about industrial stuff, like, death and existence and everything that comes with it.

Fun, exciting. 

Adam Jones: Need to fight for whatever's worth in the world,

Brian Prime: yeah. 

Adam Jones: Mm-hmm. That's what Rod's about. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. Um, 

Emily: I like that you, uh, you're, you're sticking with the multi genre thing, by the way. Um, you know, because I know that Stab in the dark was like, you were kind of trying a lot of different styles, I guess.

Like, not deviating too much in between like song to song, but like, you tried, for more dancey stuff and harder stuff and lighter, you know, like your vocal range is huge. Uh, so I appreciate that you're, thank you. You're not like picking lane, you know, you're not like, oh, well that's whatever genre, you know, like was the most popular.

I'm just gonna make a whole album of that now, so 

Adam Jones: good. Um, thank you so much, Emily. I was. I just had to like zip my lips earlier. 'cause I was hoping that someone would mention my vocal range because, uh, I've really been trying [00:20:00] to, um, as I said, not keep myself in a box and do whatever I can with 

With my writing style and my, uh, the way that I, I sing and perform as well. And I was hoping that someone would, would try to mention my, uh, my vocal range. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I don't want to boast about it too much, but like, I did have, um, really bad, uh, vocal issues. I think. Uh, Brian, the, the last time that we talked, I was just barely getting over that.

Like the writing and singing the album was kind of a miracle that I was able to accomplish that without damaging my vocals further, but felt like it needed to happen kind of thing. I was in the zone doing a whole lot better now e except for today I'm just a little bit rough. But yeah, the range is really important to me and I want to be able to do.

Like even more impractical things, maybe even outside of the industrial genre. Mm-hmm. With my vocals on future work. Hopefully I can. Still squeeze stuff in there that I want to try out. 

Brian Prime: Yeah, and I was gonna comment that is such a great component to your [00:21:00] live show after, you know, seeing you at Mechanisms, it was, I, me Mechanisms had a tremendous roster, incredible talent, but a lot of people just kind of stayed in their lane and that's fine.

Yeah. Like no shade there, like that's the flavor. Um, so that by the time we get I mortal realm on stage and it's sort of taking a break from that for a couple of songs it was something that helped really impress me about what you were doing and what you were presenting and just really helped you stand out as a performance amongst a tremendous lineup.

So yeah, well done. Um, and I know that thank you. Emily is way out on the East Coast, and every time you come up in conversation between the two of us, she's like, when is that motherfucker gonna come to the East Coast? Uh, she doesn't say that. I'm maybe improvising. Um, but plans to hit the East Coast at some point in the future.

Adam Jones: Uh, no solid plans, but I am absolutely down. [00:22:00] Um, like, uh, I can, I can get the time off of work, you know, it's just a matter of, uh, probably funding a hotel and flight. Mm-hmm. I'm, mm-hmm. I'm probably down, so, um, like I would love to do like Dark Forest Fest or something like that, or Oh my God. 

Emily: I mean, 

Adam Jones: oh my God.

Yeah. I have like a, I just got a list of all the different things going on, and like, most of them are in like Sweden and Germany and stuff like that in the uk but there's still a lot of stuff here and, uh, festivals are my lifeblood. I like doing them a whole lot. Mm-hmm. Um, I like going and I like playing even more, so it's, that'd be fabulous if I was invited.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I mean, I 

Emily: think, you know, I would say come out just as an attendee, you know, just like, just come out and show your face. I think that's actually helped a lot of bands that are on the roster this year, they just have been showing up, just like showing their face and talking to people.

So pr uh, a little bit. Little bit. 

Adam Jones: Yeah. Mm-hmm. I wish I was better at that. I'm mostly just a [00:23:00] nerd. I'm, I'm mostly playing Skyrim or, or Borderlands or something like that, or making music, and I'm like, I'm too busy making music to, to play a show, you know? Oh. But, uh, yeah, aside from being a her, but I still try to get out as much as I can.

Emily: Good, good. Yeah. 

Brian Prime: I would love to see you a dark verse vest. I think you'd be such a great fit there. Mm-hmm. And you would be, uh, 

Adam Jones: I got some friends in there. Oh my goodness. Who's, who's playing that? I know. 

Emily: Oh my god. So many bands playing. 

Adam Jones: There's so many bands and like, uh, I'm sure I know a couple of them, but, uh, 

Emily: I'm sure you do, but 

Adam Jones: I'm really proud of them.

Good for them. 

Emily: Yeah. 

Adam Jones: Oh, like, um. I think I'm getting it confused with, with two different other things. Dr. Profess always has great people on there. I'm so sad that I missed raised in black. Oh my goodness. Yeah, that was 

Brian Prime: a pretty great, pretty great performance. I don't 

Adam Jones: have their discography memorized, but the stuff that I like, I love, they're so cool.

But I was gonna if I can name drop at all, uh, congrats at choke Chain and, uh, invalid, uh, aka a mm-hmm. Inval, it's invalid. For, uh, for the Dust bunker thing in la. They're doing it with, uh, [00:24:00] suicide Commando. 

Brian Prime: Oh yeah. Nice. Yeah, 

Adam Jones: I know those guys and they're all sweet. 

Brian Prime: And you've speaking of sweet guys, you've played some shows over the past couple of months.

Is that right? One in Spokane, is that correct? 

Adam Jones: Yeah. Um, with a, um, skull cult disc and leather strip. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. Nice. Um, what a, yeah, that's right. I was like, electrical. What was the big name? Yeah. Um, leather strip. Leather strip. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, well done. That's very cool. That's awesome. Time of my 

Adam Jones: life.

Yeah. Yeah, it was, it was so fun. I Klaus, as you could probably hear in like a, let's see, terminal fate and the face like big influence to me. Um, and I got to tell him in person and I think he liked the music and that was nice. And now we're friends on Facebook and he says, happy birthday to me. I was like.

Emily: That's so nice. By the way, his, uh, you know, for a man his age like his online presence and his, uh, you know, social media game is pretty impressive. Yeah. Like better 

Adam Jones: than, better than people my age in, in general way. Yeah. Same. [00:25:00] He's hustle than, but like, he's, he's happy about it. It's, it's not like a grind for him.

He's, that's just his, the way it works. It's great. Good for him. 

Emily: Yeah. Yeah. I, I took a video 'cause I saw him on that tour, you know, when he did like a small show in Eastern Pennsylvania and I, you know, I tried to videotape as much as I could 'cause I was up front and, uh, you know, posted the video on, on Moon Burns and then Klaus shared it to his own page and then it fucking blew up.

And we got like, got, that's cool. 700 views on this tiny little, I don't know, whatever him doing, uh, strap me down and yeah. Uh, that was, it was great. 

Adam Jones: I'm so happy he still does the things like that. Like, ive been waiting for nothing seen, nothing done, which is made me one of my favorite tracks of his but he plays so many good.

He did evil Speaks. That was cool. Oh yeah. To see Live. Oh, nice. I didn't expect that. Oh, I love that one. Did you catch it? That Mecca MEUs, he did. Uh, for Klut. Desert Storm. Yes. Yeah. 

Brian Prime: I recognize that. Yeah, man. I didn't 

Adam Jones: think I would ever hear that live, and I got to hear me either. And I was, me and Steve were just like, oh my God, it's happening.

You [00:26:00] know? I know singing along with it, it's cool. 

Brian Prime: Yeah, for sure. Uh, that is a, a feeling I had seeing Klaus every single time is that I mm-hmm. This feeling of like, man, I can't believe that teenage, inside me teenage Brian is exploding with excitement because he just can't believe he's finally seeing leather show a thing I thought I would never do.

Right. Because, uh, yeah, I just, 'cause once upon a time he called it quits and then came back and but yeah. Anyway congrats on being able to play more shows. Thank do, thank you. You feel now after playing mechanisms and a couple more shows, um, do you feel more confident with Mortal Realm as a live entity?

Adam Jones: Oh yeah. I'm extremely comfortable these days. I, I've had a lot of experience with my last band, but, um, mechanisms was like hitting the ground running. I had only one technical issue for death that my, my vocoder was bringing me down one Semitone, so I sounded [00:27:00] like, uh, you know, but then it cleared up.

I, I 

Emily: couldn't tell at all. 

Adam Jones: There was only two people that said like, did you have an issue? And, and everyone else was like, I had an issue. And they're like, no, you didn't. I'm like, okay, yeah, I didn't. Cool. You know? That's all right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And then I had, uh, one technical issue on the last show, but, uh, Spokane, like perfect, 

Emily: nice.

Adam Jones: Um, but the last show was I think my, like best performance. It was some of the most fun I've had, and I had so much energy and like, I think both me and Steve, uh, Saunders from school Cultist, I think we just aced it on stage and I was so happy and everyone like ate it up and. I feel like I'm boasting too much, and I don't want to come off as an egotistical guy.

I don't have a big ego. No. But I, I'm really proud of the work that, that I, that I put into the project.

Emily: You're allowed to be proud. Yeah, no, you're, you're allowed to be, you know, feel good about this, this projects. 

Adam Jones: Yeah. But, um, it's 

Emily: okay. 

Adam Jones: But yeah, I had such a good time. I made a, a bunch of money on selling shirts.

Like there were so many people, like, interested in the gear [00:28:00] and like I had people from Spokane actually come out. Yeah. The little 

Emily: pins. I mean, your, your logo was awesome, so, oh, you got the little pin.

Adam Jones: Oh 

Emily: yeah. 

Adam Jones: Oh yeah. 

Brian Prime: I didn't know there was a pen. Cool. 

Adam Jones: I would've gotten a pin 

Brian Prime: for sure. 

Adam Jones: I got a pin.

It's a 3D pin. It has, yeah. That'd be so cool. Oh, I should make a gang symbol out of that someday. I'll figure that out, right? Yeah, right. 

Brian Prime: I, I didn't know. I just bought a shirt, like a loser. 

Emily: Oh, I didn't buy a shirt. I wish I did. 

Brian Prime: Oh, the shirt is, uh, I'm wearing 

Adam Jones: more shirts in January. You'll get, don't worry.

Emily: Alright, sweet. 

Adam Jones: Yeah. Nice. Yeah, I got the mortal on that. I online, but Portal one. Yeah, I just 

Emily: buy it. I, I try to get things at shows, but you know, you 

Adam Jones: first cut the middleman out. 

Emily: Yeah. 

Adam Jones: Right. That's right. I like the middleman. My guy's, Brent actually from, uh, I'm on and all that stuff. Oh yeah. Fresh hours.

Brian Prime: Yes. Friends on Facebook maybe seen, 

Adam Jones: yeah, he does my shirts. 

Brian Prime: While we're on the topic, um, now seems a good time to mention that at Mechanisms. Backstage you may sort of hinted at making a, uh, sort of [00:29:00] maximalist design hoodie that I would be interested in purchasing. Where are we at on that?

Ah, yes. 

Adam Jones: You're the one that gave me the idea actually. You're like, gimme the big kinda stuff on there. 

Brian Prime: Yeah, 

Adam Jones: I, I still have to talk to, to branch about about that. I don't know if he does Soviets. But I'm sure he could figure it out. Yeah.

Brian Prime: Because it's gonna be a trash hoodie. 

Adam Jones: I thought about it. A what?

Brian Prime: It's gonna be a trash hoodie, right? Like trash. It's gonna have trash. Yeah. It's gonna have like trash lyrics on it and ah, trash lyrics. Trash lyrics. Okay. Yeah. A trash. Yeah. I 

Adam Jones: got caught in my 

Emily: own 

lyrics, as in I am trash. Yeah. Call. Yeah, because that's song. I would be, I would, I would be proud to wear that.

Yeah. Right. Oh, 

Adam Jones: no, we did. Okay. I was drinking a lot of whiskey, but it gonna be like, there was a lot of alcohol, like dispose, you know, reject, you know, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, 

Brian Prime: yeah. Yeah. Okay. 

Adam Jones: Yeah, that would be awesome. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. I'm glad you're, I think we already 

Adam Jones: established that, the idea, I just have to write it out and make it, make the design. Yep. 

Emily: Yeah. Yeah. Use your font and everything, you know? Okay.

Brian Prime: All right. Just following up on that, you just landed. Thank you. Thank you for the reminder. [00:30:00] You bet. I just want to keep you on task. Make sure that this becomes reality that I can, you know, purchase and clothe my body with.

Trash. Yeah, the trash. Cover yourself in trash. Yeah. The trash. Yeah. I would, I 

Emily: would buy to waste. 

Brian Prime: I would buy one you'll sell at least too. Look at that. 

Emily: Yes, exactly. 

Or more. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. Good job. On that note, oh, I don't actually have a follow up. Emily, do you have a question? 

Emily: Well, okay so we're mentioning like designs and everything.

So I, I wanted to mention, because, uh, I have a little bit of an art background too. I love the cohesion between, you know, your, debut album cover and then also, uh, you know, rotten decomposed. I can tell like it's all, you've got like an aesthetic theme mm-hmm. That runs throughout. So even if sonically, your songs might hop around a little bit, like.

Aesthetically you don't, you know, in a good way. I don't know. I just really love the, I don't know, I could tell like, you've got a little bit of a design background, just looking at it. Thanks. With your logo, with your pin with it, you know, they single covers and everything, so, um, [00:31:00] 

yeah.

Agree. I seem, 

yeah. I just, I, they, they look sharp and, and for people, for, for nerds like me, like that means a lot. Like, same with, like, I was talking to Brian earlier, bisexuals albums all kind of like, look, it's like you see the album cover, it's like, oh that's a bisexual album cover. Yeah. You know, like 

Adam Jones: if you see the icon, you're like, is that a new Just sexual?

Yeah, yeah. I like doing that. Yeah, exactly. Um, let's see I'm working on another album. It's still very much in the, it, I'd say it's past the skeletal phase. It's partially fleshed. It's like, act two from Hell Eraser, you know? Sure. Um, but, uh, but it's coming along great. Um, I have, uh, most of the album art work done for that.

I just have to finalize all the songs that the vocal part's gonna be the hardest part physically for me to do. Mm-hmm. So it's gonna take the most time, I'll probably have it done by summer. That's my hopes. 

Emily: Oh, okay. That's awesome. Yeah. Is so you're talking about the, the vocal parts being hard. I mean, luckily, like you wonder how these performing acts they can go like night after night to do the vocals that she I have no 

Adam Jones: [00:32:00] idea.

Yeah. 

Emily: I like, I don't know how they do it. I saw, like, you know, I saw Pixel Grip and, uh, Rita, like, her voice was already, it was, I saw her halfway through the tour and her voice was already shot. And she had to like, you know, apologize. I'm like, I'm gonna do the hard songs first and then I'm just gonna scream the rest of the night as much as I can, you know?

Yeah. 

Adam Jones: That's so dangerous too. Like, you gotta, I know. Be able to play the next night. 

Brian Prime: And conversely, like, um, sorry, not to interrupt or like, you know, but I saw dark cheese may on back to back nights, um, for GLO Fest. And she just was sold it every single night at 110%. And I just was like, my God, how does she, how does she do it?

How does it just come out of her? And I'd just seen her a few months prior on tour in Vegas. Just same thing. Just gets out there mm-hmm. In the crowd, kills it. Mm-hmm. And just has this shout that comes out of her that just like, it raises your blood. Pressure. It just is like this [00:33:00] instant, like, ah, okay.

I'd love that at a performance, somebody who just like is out there just fucking selling this thing. Um mm-hmm. Which is definitely what you managed to accomplish at mechanisms. Like I, you know, you closed your set with trash and it was just like, the best I was trenched. Yeah. 

Adam Jones: I trenched by the end of it.

Yeah. And fuck that on pictures of me like you were the sweatiest man with my in the room. But 

Brian Prime: that's okay. You were killing 

Emily: it. 

Well, yeah. You clearly poured out every ounce of energy you had, yeah. I, I wanted 

Adam Jones: to make an impact and, uh, like I, I wanted to trash is a really important song to me, you know, despite it sounding kind of funny, you know?

Mm-hmm. It's about a very personal thing that I was going through and, uh, and. I try to give that energy at least every time for that song specifically because it's, it's so close. 

Brian Prime: For sure. I feel it when you were up there selling it, I felt it because that song also resonated with me of like, the lyrically the, uh, yeah.

Because those are a lot of things that I've, not [00:34:00] get to derail and get too vulnerable or whatever. You're good. Um, but those are a lot of the things that like I have said to myself. Sure. And I, that's the thing I'm drawn to in a lot of music and whether that be health or Nine Inch Nails or Holy Water or Mortal Realm, is just, if the lyrics sort of speak to me and say something that I would maybe say to myself or have said to myself, um, I'm gonna be a lot more drawn to it.

And that's the thing that I have definitely found with. With your music is, it does have that sort of voice that reminds me of my own in a way, uh, as far as lyrics go, if that makes sense. 

Adam Jones: That's a really big compliment. Thank you. I, I've gotten other people say similar stuff, mostly about death, debt, actually.

Mm-hmm. Um, death That has a couple meanings behind it, but like a lot of people say like, yeah, like, I, I have depression, and like, those are my thoughts, you know? Mm-hmm. And it's, it's nice to see it like, written out in a way that like, still gives a little bit of hope, but like, certainly like, uh, [00:35:00] brings attention to like the big concerns, you know, that you might have.

Um. Mm-hmm. And it's not just about the vibe or whatever, it's actually like, like, I don't know, someone actually said something. Goodness. I have a little, a thing that I do, I probably got really bright for a second. I'm opening up paint and I have a file called Cheer Up Adam Jones. And my, my cheer at Adam Jones.

Uh. Thing has, um, a bunch of different people's comments and people that shared my stuff, most of them were just Facebook comments, but one person said, uh, I don't find your work Deriv derivative. It's original from what anyone else is doing in EBM or industrial, looking forward to more music. And I, I was like, that's really nice to, nice to hear, you know?

Like that, like all the effort that I've put, um, don't get teary. Okay. Um, 

Emily: don't for it. Like, 

Adam Jones: uh, like all the effort that I've put in is actually getting like, that kind of [00:36:00] recognition. And it's nice to be in a project where I can pour myself out, as you mentioned like with Hex fun.

It was great to do a lot live. The lyrics were still personal, but there were also very esoteric, very like witchy, you know, magic kind of based stuff. So, uh mm-hmm. It's, it was difficult to sing about anything super personal outside of. Like stuff that I was learning and like stuff about magic and stuff like that.

So no one really came up to me and go like, yo, when you said that part of the song, like, I had that too. Like that never happened, you know? Mm-hmm. But I get that with this project and it's really cool to, to have people like you. Ryan, thank you again for, um, for like saying that it actually hit a. 

Brian Prime: Oh yeah, for sure.

Yeah, I listened to that song like frequently I was like on my daily drive to work trash time and knew trash time, so that by the time like mechanisms rolled around, like it was, I knew all the words by heart. I was like waiting for it through the whole head. I'm like, where is this fucking song?

If he doesn't close with it, I'm gonna [00:37:00] be furious. So I, it was luckily you did. Yeah. Luckily you did. Um, I got to see my favorite song. Yeah, that's the close it for now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. But yeah for sure. And I'm glad that you're able to have that experience just because like not only, being able to have that kind of personal connection with someone which is fantastic. That's, you know, the few times that I've been able to experience that because of Void Signal, it has meant so much to me. Mm-hmm. Um, and I love your idea of like, you know, a, uh, like a, a board of like things people have said that are positive.

Adam Jones: I'd recommend having it. Um mm-hmm. 'cause every now and then I, I pulled up and I add something new and then I, I see something all. I'm like, oh, like, they're so cool, you know, for, for doing that and showing the support and then you, you just see it all there, you know, I need that kind of support.

And it's nice to have it in front of me and just saying like, I wish I could remember when that happened. You know? Or, or like, no one's ever said this, you know? Yes, they have like, it's, it's somewhere. The little board there. It's a, it's gotten too big for my monitor. I keep on having to stretch it out and then add a new column.

It's really sweet. 

Brian Prime: [00:38:00] Nice. It's a good thing though. Yeah. That's so fun. What a wholesome little guy you are behind all your I know, facade. 

Emily: That's a really great piece of advice I think for people. It's just like, keep a board or some file, whatever it is, of like positive feedback that you've gotten on something that matters to you.

Adam Jones: I love that screenshot folder. If you don't wanna make a, like a bulleting board or, yeah. The red yarn. You know, 

Brian Prime: here's this compliment and it's linked to this other one somewhere. Yeah. 

Adam Jones: Darren, this band. Eric Gottman's here. Yeah. Oh my. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. Eric Gottman's in this band. Yeah, my guy. Awesome. Um, thank you so much for your music and I, I'm excited that you're gonna continue to make it for the, foreseeable future.

Um, oh yeah. I cancel. Yeah I'm pleased. 'Cause I think the, what you bring to the table is pretty fresh. Like, it's a, it's a yes. Thank, thank you. It's a fresh take on things that feel familiar to me. 'cause I mean, like, we're all the same age, so we're all like, yeah. Uh, [00:39:00] leather strip. Um, so we've all got, similar sort of backgrounds in that respect.

And you're, what you're doing is definitely just like a, a nice fresh take on things that feel familiar to me in a way that's nostalgic, but not what is the word I'm looking for here? 

Emily: Derivative. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know familiar. I completely agree and I like it. F in a comforting way, but like comforting.

But like also, I'm trying to 

Adam Jones: screenshot this, but I can't. 

Emily: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, hey, 

Adam Jones: thank you. This is 

Emily: for this. You can just listen to it later. Yeah, I'll save it. Yeah, please do. But I, no, I think that's, uh, a perfect point. Like, uh, shit, no, my, my brain has kind of gotten derailed, but, um, it's nice that, uh, you know, when I listen to your album, it's, I, I definitely, it's nice to know that I'm not the only one who trash is a perfect example of just like, I've definitely had these same thoughts of like beating myself up, you know, after just like a shit interaction with somebody just like, God, I'm such garbage.

Like, just [00:40:00] yeah, just throw me away because I'm trash. And you know, we've all had these, at least maybe our audience has all had these, really damaging thoughts. But. In a way, you know, you putting them into a song and just showing like, yes your audience isn't the only one.

We're all not the only ones who had these, like really toxic internal dialogues, you know what I mean? And that's cathartic, that's comforting. You know what I mean? You don't wanna just bury it. 'cause if you don't talk about it, it makes it worse. Mm-hmm. Um, so the more you expose it to the air and the light it's just, it's, uh, healing.

I feel like, so thank you for being so v vulnerable on, on that last album, and I think you're probably able to be more vulnerable because this is a solo project. This is a hundred percent you mm-hmm. You know, versus, multiple people in a, in a project with more. Yeah. 

Adam Jones: I don't have to run my emotions by anyone else.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Emily: It's a hundred percent you, you only have yourself to, uh, check in with. So, um, yeah. It's, it's, it cuts really deep, so thank you. Yeah, [00:41:00] 

Adam Jones: thank you. Um, if I may say, um, just in case you're having any kind of thing like that, I'm not trying to be like, Yoda or something like that. Uh, when I recognized you, I was like, oh, cool.

Like, because when I see you online I've literally had like this thought, uh, that they ooze cool energy. So, um, take that with you. Um, 

Emily: this is going on my board. Oh yeah. My goodness. Oh my God, Adam, 

Adam Jones: that was, that was the thought. I remember the thought because I'm like that, like ooze, okay, Adam, you know, but you ooze cool energy, so keep that.

Brian Prime: Yeah. Agree. Wow, you got cool energy. I'm 

Emily: good. That's gonna carry me through. 

Adam Jones: I hope it does 

Emily: through, through to next year. 

Adam Jones: Uh, yeah, just real quick, just like Brian, you're super easy to talk to. So yeah. And also Brian, thanks for being on the show. Also, Brian, the 

Emily: coolest. Brian is the coolest dude ever and, uh, let, I just wanna go on record for that and I'm so happy that he's my friend.

Thank you. I appreciate 

Brian Prime: that. Uh, just real quick, you, uh, Emily mentioned, being this, being a solo project, not having to run your [00:42:00] emotions by anybody else, uh, I personally struggle sometimes. Um, the running joke is that my editor is not at the desk, uh, in my, in my head. Uh, because there's, you know, the thoughts are immediately Yep.

Send it and out the mouth it goes. The editor never takes a look at it. Most of the time you like the, 

Adam Jones: the first part of that Hemingway, uh, philosophy, I think it was Hemingway. Yeah. 

Brian Prime: The, I'm 

Adam Jones: not a big bookie guy, but, uh, do you know it 

Brian Prime: stream of consciousness? The like,

Adam Jones: no, it's, uh oh no. Drunk edit sober.

Brian Prime: Yes. Yeah. I love that quote. Um, so 

Adam Jones: your brain's just. Drunk about your own self. Yes, exactly. So it just, stuff 

Brian Prime: just comes out sometimes. Mm-hmm. And, uh, but is that a thing that you find maybe you struggle with of like, Ooh, maybe I shouldn't say this, or maybe I shouldn't say that, or Hey Adam, hold up.

Think about this thing. 

Adam Jones: Yeah. Um, like sometimes I do, sometimes I get so far where I feel like I have to like, like do like an emotional dribble, if that makes any sense. Like, get down to a [00:43:00] spot and then realize, wow, that's pretty low. Like, that's not that bad, is it? You know? And try to bounce from, bounce back from that dribble, you know?

But, uh, but at the same time, like your body hears what you're saying, you know? And sometimes it doesn't know the difference and you could just really literally beat yourself up over beating yourself up, you know? So you shouldn't do it too much. If you could avoid it, go ahead. But if, if it's gonna get you through it, if you're going through, hell keep walking.

Brian Prime: Yeah. Um, that's a Ben. No. Who the fuck said that? That's a famous quote. I, right. Churchill? 

Adam Jones: No, that's, that's definitely Roosevelt. Churchill. 

Brian Prime: Churchill. Oh man. It was a politic. If you're going through, hell keep going. I say keep going. It maybe Churchill, if this were trivia, I think it is Churchill. Yeah, if I think you're right, if this a trivia question, I would wage your money.

I bet a dollar than it was gel. But, um, okay. Anyway, I don't want to keep you too long. I want to hit you with the last question. Um, and this will go for [00:44:00] both of you, but what is something that you have been enjoying recently? And your answer can be anything.

Emily: Adam goes first. 

Adam Jones: I was googling the quote and I, I failed to find out so I wasn't listening to the question. Oh, 

Brian Prime: okay. Quick ask it again. Uh, what is something you've been enjoying recently? And your answer can be anything and I will look up the quote actually while you're 

Adam Jones: answering. Thanks. Alright, let me.

Ponder,

I'm a pondering. 

Emily: Because that is a hard question. Do you want me to hop in while, do you want me to buy some time? Yeah, if you 

Brian Prime: wanna hop in. Okay. Actually, hold on. Let me interrupt. Oh, wait, wait. 

Emily: Yeah, no. 

Brian Prime: The quote, if you're going through hell keep going, is often misattributed to Winston Churchill with no definitive evidence that he actually said it.

Okay. All right. Okay. Interest. That's where I heard it. Damn. I will I would've lost a fucking dollar on that. I guess it's a vivid quote. Yeah, it's, yeah. I still like the quote. It doesn't take away me for some [00:45:00] stuff, actually. Yeah. No, and not to diminish it in any way. It's wise advice.

I just, you know. Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. Anyway, what have you, what have you been enjoying? 

Emily: Oh so is it me? Is it me? Okay. All right. All right. So, I know this is audio only, but this is just for the, the purposes. Uh, I've been getting back into film photography. Well, I, so, my background 

Brian Prime: for listeners at home, Emily held up an old camera.

Emily: I'm an old ass Minolta, SLR, it's a thousand pounds. You can't tell, but it's heavy. And it was my mother's camera, uh, from the late seventies. She bought it, you know, probably to take some photo class, I don't know, sometime before I was born and then she got bored of it. But luckily she shaved it and then I went to school.

It school like a good condition? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, she, she just held onto it. I mean, it's got a strap, it's got a flash, it's got all the, the little doodads. It only has one lens, which sucks. Um, I'm gonna look for new lenses, but, um, recently dug up all this, it's spied film, so I've been taking it around with me, uh, shooting on old expired [00:46:00] film.

I have no idea what it's gonna look like. 

Alright. So, 

uh, so, uh, getting back into, uh, yeah, I took dark film photography when I was in college, so I'm like, oh let's pick this back up. And I also do ceramic and that's cool. Thanks. Yeah. So that's what I do like, yeah. Little dishes and shit. Oh, that's neat.

Yeah. Yeah. So I like that. Um, thanks. Yeah. It's a little dish with, uh, ear decals on it so I can put earplugs or AirPods or something? 

Adam Jones: Thought it was soap. 

Emily: Oh, she makes 

Adam Jones: that as well. Why is soap right there? That's cool. 

Emily: Yeah. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Soap dish would make sense actually. Yeah. 

Brian Prime: That's hard stuff's.

Yeah. What about you Adam? What have you been enjoying? 

Adam Jones: Let's see. I mean, aside from really trying to crunch out the next album, um, mm. I've been wasting my time. Big air quotes with, uh, with Borderlands for so much of it. I think, uh, yeah, one is good, two is great. Three I actually think is great.

Two, even though a lot of people didn't [00:47:00] like three as much as two, but, uh, a four is up there as long as you can mod it. I didn't like it unmoderated, but once that I moed it, it was, it was a blast afterwards and I couldn't stop playing for. Three months. Yeah. A little bit of a damper on that. But I was also trying to rest my vocals so I can do the shows, uh, the show with NTA and Ceremony Shadows and somber Luxe and stuff like that. That was a fun show in, uh, in Tacoma. 

Brian Prime: Oh yeah. Shout out nta. Um, she's amazing love. 

Adam Jones: Incredible. How much talent can you fit in to someone so small? So it's this 

Emily: tiny package. I know. Yeah. 

Adam Jones: Yeah. And her cat is so cute. Did you see the cat that I posted? Oh my 

Emily: God. The new the, the new.

Oh, your, your cat? 

Adam Jones: No, no, it's her cat. Oh, her cat. I reposted her cat 'cause it's so cute. Oh. 

Emily: Oh my gosh. Um, 

Adam Jones: I'm a cat guy. I got, I got two cats and a dog, but, um, oh 

Emily: yes. Yep. Same. 

Adam Jones: But my goodness her cat's adorable. 

Emily: I know. I saw 

Adam Jones: listener find me on Facebook. Always a 

Emily: satellite dish. 

Adam Jones: Find the cat picture.

Emily: Yeah. No, if you wanna, if you want to see [00:48:00] adorable cat pictures, just follow her account, 

Adam Jones: you know? Yeah. No shortage. Moshi, that's the name of the cat. 

Emily: Oh, she, yeah, that's right. Yeah. And then also pancake, I think is the other one. Yes. Or pancake. I think it's a pancake. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great name for a cat.

Brian Prime: Agree. Uh, so Microsoft teams just discovered this, uh, if there's more than one person in the call, it has a 60 minute time limit. And there about, oh no. Two minutes left. Fuck. So we can just restart the meeting. Um, okay. Or try and slam the la the last few minutes into the last, minute and a half or whatever.

Uh, so let's just restart. I will send you both the link in a second and then we'll first this up. 

Emily: Okay. Well this is good 'cause I could let my cat outta the room. 

Brian Prime: Okay. Yeah. Get outta here cat. 

Emily: Oh, hold the cat up. 

Brian Prime: Yeah, yeah. Back. We got 

Adam Jones: two minutes to see the cat. Two minutes to see the cat. 

Brian Prime: Okay. I'm gonna restart.

I'll be right back. 

Hello, Dick Foghorn.[00:51:00] 

Adam Jones: Nice. I used that once for like a bowling name. And then I, I used when I used to go to Starbucks, I don't shop there anymore 'cause of the protests and stuff, but that was my name and sometimes they'd say it, sometimes they didn't. 

Brian Prime: Foghorn. 

That's funny as shit. Thank you. Yeah, that's a good one. I like Larry Mannequin is one that I like.

Larry Mannequin. Yeah. Telling people. Oh, Larry Mannequin. I don't know, it's just a fun generic Dick Foghorn. That's fun. Yeah. What the fuck were we even talking about? Oh, okay. Oh borderlands. Uh, so, yeah, I have not, I kind of checked outta that series after the second one. But you know, it's at.

I'm such a fan. That's good. Place to stop second's. Really good. Yeah. I'm such a fan of like looter shooters though. 'Cause it combines like my love of Diablo with mm-hmm. My love of shooting things and it so I do it, it is a thing that captures my interest, but I also feel like the borderlands [00:52:00] sense of humor from like, maybe the first two games is sort of, maybe its time has kind of come and gone.

Do you feel that way? I, I mean, how is this new one by comparison? 

Adam Jones: Yeah. It, it's just not cringey per se, but it is I think a slightly older kind of humor. Um, they certainly, um, took out a couple things that probably would've been slightly more offensive if it would've been released now, like from the earlier scripts, you know.

Like they had a character that was like a white girl that had kind of a bons language. You know, she just wasn't in there at all. I think she might've had like a small spot and like a side quest, but she was not a part of the story like she was in the last two, you know? Not that that's a bad thing, but things like that were changed.

Brian Prime: Gotcha. Um, okay. Uh, I always answer the question myself. What the hell have I been enjoying? I've been giving like super deep answers lately, so I'm gonna try and pick something like actually fucking fun.

Adam Jones: I, I'm curious about the deep, sorry, go on. 

Brian Prime: Oh, what were you gonna say? [00:53:00] Oh, the deep answers. Uh, logical 

Adam Jones: necessity of mankind's existential dilemma.

Yeah. 

Brian Prime: I like, like my last, uh, interview with, um, JP from Rabbit Junk. I was like, ah, I've been enjoying setting boundaries. And I like went on this whole spiel about like, ah, it's uncomfortable, but the payoff is blah, blah, blah. You know, self-growth, like wholesome shit. But let's tell, let me tell you about how I allowed myself to enjoy a video game.

So I did play some, uh, since that's the theme of this episode is like fucking video games, I guess. Uh, but I think it was the last one too. Yeah. But I allowed myself to play some Marvel rivals. It's um, like a free to play and we'll milk you for all your dollars. Game that is kind of like Overwatch, just with Marvel superheroes and shit.

Uh, scratches that itch for like team based. Games like a Team Fortress, kind of a thing. But you know, you get to play like, oh, I'm Venom, or, oh, I'm, Magneto or whatever. Um, that's cool. So [00:54:00] as a comic book nerd from in my youth, like, it's, it's a fun combination of like things I enjoy.

Um, so I've been having fun playing that lately. Yeah. That's 

Adam Jones: awesome. I, I've seen some of the advertisements of it. It looks like, I mean, this in the, in the most sincere way it looks very comic booky 

Emily: like 

Adam Jones: it, it's got the really slick graphics, but, um, it's very poppy colors and it's. Well fleshed out.

Brian Prime: Yeah, absolutely. And they have all the, um, they have costumes for everybody that you can purchase, but like, it's all nerd shit, right? Like, ah, this is the costume from first appeared in issue number, blah, blah, blah of suchy such. And it's fun stuff like that. And uh, yeah I've been having fun playing that playing a lot of, play A lot of Squirrel Girl.

Um, which is a, a newer Marvel hero, if you're not familiar. Squirrel Girl, just I know. I think it was, 

Adam Jones: she's like, uh, who's the actress that was supposed to play them from Pitch Perfect? I can't remember their name. 

Brian Prime: Oh, really? Oh my goodness. 

Adam Jones: People [00:55:00] are like, oh, she's the perfect person to play it. What's her name?

Oh, Anna 

Brian Prime: Hedrick. Oh, okay. Is that her name? I could see that. I could see her being a good score, girl. That makes sense. That's great. Yeah. I like Squirrel Girl a lot as a character. She's like defeated Dr. Doom and like Wolverine and shit. Like she's in the comic books and stuff. 

Adam Jones: Ultra 

Brian Prime: underdog. Yeah. Just like, you know, with the power of squirrels and acorns and bullshit I, like I'm in, I'm here for it.

Like, look, it's fucking fantasy. Like, make it ridiculous. Who cares? Yeah. But yeah playing a lot of that and yeah having fun with that. Alright, that's mostly it. You know, I don't want to keep you too long or anything. Thank you so much for coming on the show again and having a chat with Emily and myself.

It's always a pleasure to get to talk to you and I'm Yeah, man, I'm excited to hear what you make next. And mm. You can send over the album as soon as it's ready. And I'll Okay. Gladly listen to it. 

Emily: Yeah, we would love to hear it. Mm-hmm. 

Brian Prime: Sure. 

Emily: Yeah. 

Brian Prime: Yeah, for sure. Yeah. [00:56:00] Alright, well I'll let you go.

Enjoy the rest of your evening and uh, yeah, I'll let you know when this comes out. Probably in like a couple weeks, maybe a month. 

Adam Jones: Cool. Okay. Sounds good. Thanks so much again for having me. It just like last time, tons of fun. Yeah. To do it again. 

Brian Prime: Yeah. Awesome. I will keep that in mind 'cause I, you know, I like banging people off, other people for interesting social chemistry.

Yeah, I, yeah. All right. Cool. Well, enjoy the rest of your evening. Thank you again so much. And, uh, yeah. Cheers. Have a good night. 

Emily: See you. Thanks. 

Brian Prime: Cheers. Bye. Thank you. Emily. I'm gonna, 

Emily: yeah. 

Yeah.