twyn!b

German producer twyn!b joins Void Signal to discuss the making of Danger Nights Volume Two, a charity compilation bringing together artists from across the darker electronic music spectrum. Christina talks about discovering mid-tempo through artists like Rezz, organizing a community-driven release for a cause she believes in, and balancing music with life as a software engineer. The conversation also explores online and offline communities, creative burnout, trans support networks, video game soundtracks, and the importance of finding meaningful ways to connect in a world designed to keep us distracted. A thoughtful and surprisingly hopeful conversation about music, community, and doing what you can with the tools you have.
Featured Songs:
twyn!b - LOST?INTHECHEMISTRY

https://twynb.bandcamp.com/ for more twyn!b.

https://twynb.bandcamp.com/album/danger-nights-vol-ii for the Danger Nights Volume II

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Void Signal intro remix by Mortal Realm. Visit https://mortalrealm.bandcamp.com/ for more Mortal Realm.

Transcript

Prime: welcome to Void Signal. I'm your host, Brian Prime. I'm joined by Christina, who records as, Twin! B. Twin B. Twin B. And, you're on an upcoming compilation with, some other, former Void Signal guests, Goath and, or Goth, I guess rather, and, Phil Gonzo.

And you're going to be on, a charity album, Danger Nights Volume Two. tell me a little bit just sort of about where you came from and what got you into music, and how you arrived at this point. 

Christina: Yeah. well, like the album is out already. I guess we'll talk about that later, but it has been released already.

Yeah, I'm Christina. I'm a musician from Germany. I started out like seven... No. It's gonna be like [00:01:00] almost eight years now. Jesus. Time flies. I've started out with like, shitty hip hop, then I started making shitty dubstep, and now I'm making actually decent mid-tempo. that was not funny. Stop laughing.

Prime: So what kind of led you to... I mean, you started with hip hop. so I'm assuming like a lot of your influences were sort of born from that kinda style. 

Christina: It was, a mix of that, like, kind of a trying to be a man phase, which like, I guess being a man is being a cool rapper.

And, neither of those things worked out. and from there on out, like I started getting into dubstep and like, Virtual Riot I think brought me into that. And then from there on out it was like, make the heaviest thing ever, make the heaviest thing ever. And, I discovered like, mid-tempo or dark electro music in like the last place you'd expect it, which is a now-defunct video game called Hyperscape.

I miss that game. Fucking Ubisoft killed it. nobody was playing it anymore, so it's like it was [00:02:00] bound to die. but the soundtrack featured a song by one Rez And this is a fun thing, like when I talk to people, it's always like, "Who got you into mid-tempo?" Rez. And, like I could name like three, four names, I believe, off the top of my head who all like told me that story.

And so I'm like not very unique in that. 

Sure. Yeah, from 

there on out I- Mm-hmm ... started making it myself, and now I'm here. 

Rez is a good answer. I feel like that's a good like introduction to, that sort of darker, heavier electronic kind of a sound, which is really fresh.

I, I enjoy it quite a bit as somebody who has like a background in industrial music, and I feel like, mid-tempo is, adjacent enough, right? Like I... Enough of that like heavy sort of experimental fuzzy kind of sound. big fan of that. So this compilation, I did run through it, listened to, the tracks and everything, and I've checked out your back catalog as well.

I [00:03:00] do like what you're making, and I think it's, got a fresh spin on, some sort of familiar feels. I like the textures that you're working with and things that you've got going on. how did you come to be involved in this compilation? 

So we already did this like a couple years ago on a also now-defunct, Discord server, which was like three of us on there, which was, Zikir, then Serial Dimensions.

And me. And we only published that one on Bandcamp. and on account of us not really promoting it, it never really went anywhere. And like back then we already decided we'd do it like as a charity thing, so the earnings from that one went to Mermaids, which is like a UK trans charity.

a couple years later, which is like in early 2025 this must be, with, the US being in the state that it is , I decided that basically like I have to do something [00:04:00] because if I'm just sitting here and watching the world burn, it's kind of like, like I'm sitting on my couch and doom scrolling, and who's gaining anything from that?

like I'm feeling shitty and I'm not changing anything about it. So, I decided to re- revive the Danger Knights project and like hit up a couple people I was already in contact with, including Phil Gonzo from Kill Instinct. Was basically like, "Hey, I wanna restart this thing. Do you wanna like-" Have a little head start on, getting something done.

And a couple people did, and then I did, like, a public call for participation, which also reached a couple people. And, even artists that I haven't really heard of before, like, Jalex, I wasn't really familiar with ahead of this. So now I found him through that, too.

And, yeah, then from there on out, got the tracks together. originally I was going to commission someone else for the artwork, but, like, life stuff got in the way for [00:05:00] them, so, Pete from Mary Eidelon carried that a lot. So, like, all of the visual identity was his idea. huge thanks to him. And then the release had to get bumped back a couple of times because of messy reasons, and now we're here.

Prime: Yeah. I'm... was very pleased with the whole, assembly of it. I wasn't quite sure what to expect musically from it. and, it's such a fun blend, and having a Shiver track that's remixed by, Maria Eidelon was, such a pleasant surprise of like, oh, here's a voice I know from, you know, the genre, who's being, given a fresh, kinda spin on, on what he has to offer.

is there... I, it's maybe too soon to sort of gauge this, because I know that, you know, creating, things is a, a taxing process, but do you plan to maybe do this again? 

Christina: right now I'm going to say no, because, the thing that I'm realizing from this, like... Sure. Like, a thing the community [00:06:00] did. but I did kind of take a lead on it, and organize it. So I'm going to say if I'm going to do this again, I'm going to have to get someone on board that takes care of the marketing.

I asked a couple of people who, do have, bigger numbers on their Spotify, what to do, and they pretty much agreed with the things I was going to do, It didn't feel like I was doing enough, which partially was because I was, but that's a different story.

the whole stress of that and, getting the distribution done and everything, it was, a- I say this now, but in two or three years I'm going to do this whole thing again. Maybe I'll, do a better job marketing it. I should stop with the self-deprecation on here. 

Prime: Yeah. I don't mean to admonish you- Yeah, that's fine

but it's a thing I do as well, right? Like, and I, I feel that sort of pressure also of like, how to market, how to do a thing that, you know, neither of us is like, was never trained to do, right? Like, so... And that's true of, I feel, a [00:07:00] lot of artists and musicians nowadays, and I, I'm gonna use this term but not disparagingly, but like bedroom producers, right?

Like, it's a lot of people who are just trying to forge a path for themselves. And, yeah, it isn't easy. But I do, I did wanna also comment, I admire your reasoning of I'm sitting watching and what can I do? Like, what were, what small action f- can I take to try and make an impact on this? and I think that's a great place for motivation and inspiration to be born from, of a, what can I do to affect others with what I make or what I do?

do you think that working on this compilation and your feelings that have arisen from it is going to inform what you end up making next musically? 

Christina: That's a good question, and I don't think I have an immediate answer for it. Because, like, the one song I did make for it, it was like [00:08:00] kind of going into an experimental thing. I was like, trying to aim a bit more for, I think saying old school mid-tempo feels kind of ironic because, like, old school is barely 10 years ago.

Like, I guess that counts as old school now. 

Prime: Yeah, I suppose it does. So, Time changes so fast. 

Christina: Yeah. And, I was like trying to shoot a bit more for that with my song, "Lost In The Chemistry," purely because, like, that's what the sounds kind of ended up working out for. And, like I'm working on an EP right now, and it's, the weirdest thing I have made yet, and it's also definitely leaning into that. 

Prime: Okay. That's fun. Yeah. and exciting. So it has sort of prompted you to kinda come, you know, go in a different, slightly different direction. 

Christina: Yeah.

Prime: Okay. what, aside from making music, what do you do with your days? 

Christina: Mostly like, like at my, my website has this like text, say like [00:09:00] I'm a software engineer by day, musician by night. Evening really, I usually sleep at night. And I think that summarizes it best. Like my day job is being a software engineer.

currently not working on anything noteworthy. I wanna start making cool stuff, but try finding a job. and then I'm going to be honest right now, between job hunting and mus- music, my other hobbies have like kind of taken a break. 

Prime: Currently in the market for a job myself and it's, you know, when you're not working on the passion project and pursuing a job, like I can't bring myself to sit down and sort of enjoy a video game or something because there's that nagging like, ah, you could be doing thing that's advancing yourself in some way or, or something like that.

Is that a thing that you feel like you've been experiencing a lot? 

Christina: Yeah, definitely. And like that's the, part where it gets even worse because what I then start doing [00:10:00] is not work on the thing that I want to work on, but think, "Ugh, but I don't have the energy to do that right now. I'm going to scroll Reddit for five minutes and then I'll start doing something."

Prime: Gotcha. Yeah. 

Christina: that's like feedback loop I'm actively trying to break, like not, not scrolling. I've like, deleted or like stopped using most social media purely for the reason of like it feels like you're not spending any time on it, but like if you actually look at it, like your phone probably has like a statistic feature where you can see how much screen time you spend on each app and the time you waste on that is baffling.

Prime: Yes, it adds up fast. I, yeah, remarkably fast And it is remarkably freeing to just put your phone down and just be away from it for a time and just be like, "I'm gonna go enjoy the world and not worry about my alarms or my calls or my whatever."

it [00:11:00] is nice to, I'm gonna say disconnect, but not in a not in any sort of a permanent way because just to kinda touch back on what you mentioned earlier of like a lot of people are just sort of doom scrolling, like I do think there's a lot of value in being connected. You know, like you said, you mentioned, Discord servers that, brought you into the spheres of influence of people that you might not have met otherwise and is- You know, probably partially, or maybe it's I'm making an assumption here, and please tell me if I'm wrong.

but it would seem like sort of you have your social connections as, are maybe partially responsible for you making your music and being here today. Do you think that's a fair assessment? 

Christina: I would say so, yeah. I mean, who is... Like, if you wouldn't have a social life, you probably wouldn't be here either.

Yeah. Like, that, that's not to be rude, but, like, that's like a basic- No, absolutely ... human thing you need. And, yeah, Discord is, like, the one platform that I'm [00:12:00] still really active on because, like, that's where you have a much better filter on what you see, like what you engage with at a given moment, and you can better, like, keep in contact with people.

'Cause, like, if I take it for a reference, like fucking Instagram, which is a hell app that you should delete, I say having contact you, contacted you through Instagram. 

Prime: Yeah. 

Christina: Now, if you scroll on there, like, you're not the one who decides what you engage with there, and, thus you're, like, not... This is kind of leading into the, politics and the doom scrolling thing again of, like, if you're doom scrolling, you're, like, hearing lots of horrible things that are happening, like, all over the place, and you're thinking like, "Oh my God, there's so many horrible things.

What am I... I, I can't do anything because there's so many horrible things." And the advantage of, like, of being able to curate what you're engaging with a lot is like, [00:13:00] sure, I don't hear a lot of what's going on in certain parts of the world or, like, what's going on with certain political stuff, but the stuff I can do anything about, I, like, that I can engage with, I have picked to, like, that be the things I'm aware of.

Prime: 'cause I've, I use Discord myself, a lot and used to be a lot more active on it. but kinda like what you were touching on with Instagram and, you know, things like Facebook, like I'd rather not be on those platforms if I could help it. but the problem is sort of, you know, and this is a thing I'm sure you, you run into as well of, but that's where the people are.

And it's trying to crack the code of, like, how do I get my thing in front of the eyes and ears of, people who might enjoy it, people who, it could touch or make a benefit to? but it is sort of hard to Redirect that time to maybe other platforms, you know, like Blue Sky or [00:14:00] Discord or whatever, whatever it might be.

I do agree with you though, the social connections are, are valuable. Like I probably wouldn't have made Void Signal for as long as I have if not for like, oh, I met this person who was cool, or I met that person who was rad, and you know, that sort of social connection. are there ways m- that you think, that that spirit is sort of still alive, that sort of social community?

Do you... Is it a thing that you find almost exclusively on a thing like Discord, which is, I'm gonna use the word curated, I feel. Is that like it's sort of you're curating it yourself and entering spaces that you understand the rules of, right? but do you think there's, a, a new version or a new iteration of community outreach that is in the near future?

Maybe that's kind of a big question, but I don't know. 

Christina: like, many things packed into one. Like, if we're like [00:15:00] not exclusively talking online, because like I think the way bigger thing is like offline communities, like your local people. Like, talking about the trans thing again, there's a local self-help group here, which is, where I met several of my friends.

like I've met several of my friends in that group and like they've been one of, not the biggest, but like one of my pillars that have carried me through the past few years. And it's probably like, I don't-- I'm not quite sure where you live, but like you probably also have local communities, both like musically and, like emotionally, politically.

That's actually like a thing I'm missing here in my current city. It's, we don't really have like a music, like a mid-tempo or industrial or anything in that direction music scene here. I'm, really missing that. 

Prime: Sure. 

Christina: I [00:16:00] think curated plays is the answer. and that's just, like, not something that an open social media like, Mastodon or Blue Sky or Instagram is going to give to you. Which, basically the only reasons I have an Instagram account is to promote releases and to, contact people who I don't know if I con- can contact them anywhere else, which is surprising in many...

Please, people, have a public email address. Goddammit. 

Prime: Gosh, that is so frustrating to be like, or to, you know, go search them online and it's, like, the only place to contact them is their Insta or whatever. And I don't know who's gonna read that, right? Like, depending upon who, how, what artist it is or how, a musician or whatever it is, like, I don't know who the recipient is.

So it's, yeah, frustrating. 

Christina: On that note, I believe your website is actually currently offline. I was, like, trying to find- Is it? ... a way to contact you that wasn't Instagram. it was offline. But it seems to be up again. Like, 

Prime: yeah, it was offline for a second there 'cause I didn't realize, like, my [00:17:00] payment plan had lapsed.

Christina: I just had, the perfect timing of, trying to look you up right then. 

Prime: Now that you, we're complaining about email addresses not being on there, I'm going to look... Oh yeah, mine is at the bottom, with all the other social links and everything.

Okay. Wanted to make sure. 'cause I was, I didn't wanna be guilty of the thing I was complaining about. But, if you could, and if you don't mind, just could you talk a little bit about, 'cause you briefly touched on sort of, being in touch with, like, a trans community, and, can you tell me a little bit about, like, how...

It sounds like it has made a huge difference to you in your life. could you just tell me a little bit about how that happened, if you don't mind? 

Christina: I mean, it's, like, the group I'm thinking of is, like, a local self-help group. Like, if you talk to a trans person in my city, they've probably been there at least once.

And then, like, half a year later, I ran into another trans woman in a local grocery store, and she also was like, "Hey, do you wanna come there?" [00:18:00] Like to, Transident. And then I was like, "Okay, fine, you people have a point."

so yeah, I ended up, going there, like being a regular for a while. I don't get there as often now because life gets in the way. But yeah, it's basically like find some queer people or otherwise people like, of the community that you want to find locals for, and then from there on out see the spaces they run and, and yeah, head there.

Prime: I- it does sound like your experience with that has sort of, is similar to others I've heard of. I, was seeking out a community and found one, and, it seems to be a thing that provides a lot of comfort. And I would imagine that it is, maybe significantly more impactful for a trans person because of the amount of acceptance that maybe comes along [00:19:00] with it.

W- would you say that is true? 

Christina: Like, it's one thing like with the music scene, like that goth event I mentioned, it is cool being there and like seeing people who are like you. With, tr- with like other trans people, it's kind of that but cranked to 11 because, like you have, like, there are things that like, people who don't have that experience simply either don't understand or like you need to explain to them.

I think that's the big thing. Like you're in a room with people who you don't need to explain yourself to, and you kind of get that with goth events like too. Yeah, you have like a shared vocabulary, a shared, set of experiences.

There's no faster way to bond than both being transgender. Like genuinely, you, you're in a room with someone, you're both transgender- 20 minutes, you're friends. 

Prime: Yeah. 

Christina: Either that or one of you is weird. 

Prime: I'm glad that [00:20:00] has been your experience, and I do hope that is the experience that, can be found at most goth clubs because, you know, I expect this space, the one that I'm familiar with and the one that I'm a part of, as a cishet white guy, I want that to be the experience of, like, whoever a person may be, at a goth club, they are welcome and they don't have to worry about, you know, some bullshit or having to d- put up with some kind of discrimination.

it feels like it runs so counter to what this whole scene was born from, right? Of, like, weirdos, people who are the other, or people who are, not, you know, like everybody else. And, I definitely feel like that has become far more important these days, sort of given the state of the world.

Yeah. I agree. so you mentioned, we're gonna do a quick detour. You mentioned a Ubisoft game, that you were in love with, one that died. you said it was Hyperspace.

Is that [00:21:00] right? 

Christina: HyperScape. 

Prime: HyperScape. 

Christina: Yeah. It's, basically, like, it was kind of on the tail end of the whole battle royale hype. 

Prime: Mm-hmm. 

Christina: it was kind of merging that with, arena shooters in a way. 

Prime: Mm-hmm. 

Christina: it's very vertical, don't have that much inventory management, and, people have likened it to Apex Legends, which I still haven't played, so I can't- 

judge that. 

Prime: Sure. 

Christina: I found it, very fun. The problem was that, it was on the tail end of the hype. nobody wanted to play battle royales anymore, and, they also, stopped marketing it after- the release. 

Prime: Oh, okay. But- So, like, a perfect recipe for this game is gonna die 

Christina: Yeah 

Prime: but ha- apparently had Rez on the soundtrack, which is cool. and I, I've discovered a lot of, like, really good music and artists through video game soundtracks. there was a game on Steam, Fury. I was terrible at it 'cause it's just like a, fight bosses kind of a game, like one after the other, and sort of a dark scroll or a, a [00:22:00] elder sc- you know, Elden Ring sort of a style of game, a, a Dark Souls kind of a game.

but the soundtrack was banging and had like, you know, artists like Danger and, Dance With The Dead, and all kinds of things. so it's been, There's definitely a lot of value in, like, you know... And I would encourage others, like if you hear something cool on a soundtrack, look it up.

You know, find more of it. Like, you know, flood your life with it. It's a thing that speaks to you for some reason. So yeah, definitely agree. is doing soundtrack work a thing you would want to do at some point? 

Christina: I don't want music to be my day job.

Prime: Mm-hmm. 

Christina: I decided this very early on, like, I have two things I like to do a lot, which is computers and music. One of those is a stable, well playing, paying job, the other is music. One of those is going to stay my hobby. but like, as a hobby project, I would love to, like, do soundtracks.

Way back in the day, there was like someone who com- actually commissioned me [00:23:00] to make a soundtrack for, I believe it was a Roblox game, and I'd made like two or three songs, and they disappeared off both, like, the space I met them at and just like in general. Never got paid. so I would love to, like, do this more, especially because that was, like, years ago.

So if anyone is listening looking for someone to make a soundtrack, hit me up. Yeah. I'd love to. 

Prime: Yeah, for sure. so you said you're working on an EP. so that sounds like, it coming this year, I assume? 

Christina: this year being 2026, yes. I'd say so. Like, right now I'm mostly waiting on the cover art and, like, cleaning up some of the sound design.

But, yeah, right now it's four tracks. I'm like... It's, it's this thing of, like, I have a couple tracks that go in a similar direction, and there's like one or [00:24:00] two where I'm on the fence, like, do they fit? so it's going to be somewhere between- Yeah, let's say three or six tracks. Gotcha. Probably four. I don't know yet.

Prime: Okay. 

Christina: I realized that I made, four really weird songs. That's what you call an EP. 

Prime: Yeah. I would call that an EP. Like, three songs is a single to me. like, but, you know, four or more. any remixes planned or collaborations or anything like that on your, in your future?

Christina: Like, remix, I constantly remix stuff, which, because it's, like, the easiest way to get through art block, in my opinion. Like, I just take some song and flip it. there's nothing that, like, I'm going to release officially, because I don't know any of the people I'm flipping songs of. collaboration-wise, there are, like, a couple in the pipeline.

Nothing where I, like, want [00:25:00] to say anything yet, because, like, the experience with collaboration is someone drops the ball, someone forgets for half a year, and then you hit them up and you're like, "Hey, we, we were doing a, a, a thing. Can, can we please keep doing the thing?" Yeah. And then it's like a 50/50 of either you end up completing the thing or it just, like, fizzles out.

Yes. And so I don't, like, I don't want to start dropping names yet. But there are things coming. 

Prime: Yeah. Understand. I have learned, in my time doing this, like, don't announce a single thing until it is in the can, done, ready. because invariably it will fall through. Like, oh, I'm gonna have, you know, huge band on.

Like, no you're not. Like, they, the cosmos has... You leaked it, and now it's not gonna happen. 

Christina: was... I did risk telling a couple people [00:26:00] that we were going to do this episode ahead of time. 

Prime: Yeah. 

Christina: And from the moment I had sent on that message, I was like waiting for the, "Oh, shit, I don't have time." 

Prime: And, sometimes honestly as, the, I am the person who, like, drops the ball for six months or something, 'cause I'm like, oh, I'm gonna have you on. Like, person, make mental note in my brain, I'm gonna invite that person on. But my whole life happens, and then, you know, time flies by, and then it's like, oh, shit, yeah, I was gonna interview this person.

so yeah, I'm... Oh, yeah, I have to admit my, I, I am the person at fault sometimes. but that said- Yep ... I do appreciate you making this work. I appreciate your time. 

Christina: So do I. Like, I appreciate your time. 

Prime: Yeah. 

Christina: It was only like very recently. Like, there are two collaborations where I was going to put vocals on and I had... I spent like half of last year with a nasty cold, which was [00:27:00] like, it wasn't bad, but it was just barely like enough that I couldn't sing or rap or scream. So, yeah, those things just had to wait and then like, yeah, I was the one dropping the ball.

it, it felt bad to be that person. 

Prime: Yeah. it doesn't feel good to be the person who drops the ball. yeah, it feels shitty. But I mean, I guess, you know, part of growth is like, ah, making up for it and like trying to make it right, I guess, or at least that's what I tell myself and try to do to, you know, right the wrongs and like, "Oh, let's actually do this thing."

And if they don't want to, if the time has passed, that's fine. Like, I'll move on. But I at least tried to, you know, patch things up. I don't wanna keep you too long. I will hit you with the last question, which is just what is something that you've been enjoying recently? And your answer, it can be anything, a book, movie, TV show, your dog, whatever.

although I did see a cat in the background, I think, [00:28:00] so. 

Christina: my cat, my two cats, Siri and Ophelia, definitely make my life better, especially because, like for a week now I've been forced to do home office and, having them like come here and demand cuddles, it's like, not a boost to my productivity, I will say.

Prime: Yeah. 

Christina: I've kind of fell into a rabbit hole of variety Sudoku. So like Sudoku puzzles, but with some additional rules to make them harder.

Stuff like, oh, right now I'm doing one where adjacent digits can't sum to 5 or 10, so you can't put a 6 next to a 4 or stuff like that. And it's, basically like logic puzzles. And I'm struggling with harder ones right now. I mean, right now I'm doing a couple easy ones, but it's, a nice way to like, spend free time, which is- I feel like healthier than scrolling.

Prime: Yeah, probably much [00:29:00] healthier to like sit and do like some puzzles and, stuff. Like, yeah, probably a better use of your time than just scrolling through, awful headlines or whatever the case may be. Okay. that's a good answer. so Cere and Ophelia, what, why those names?

Christina: Ophelia we basically just picked because it sounds cool. Cere, it's, C-E-R-E, and it's short for cereal killer. 

Prime: Oh. 

Christina: it doesn't have an origin story. She hasn't murdered any cereals- 

Prime: Okay ... 

Christina: as far as I'm aware. 

Prime: Sure. 

Christina: She is a very, munchie cat. 

Prime: Mm-hmm. 

Christina: we have lots of snow right now and, so like I was showing them snow for the first time, like just grabbing some off the, window, windowsill is the word- 

Prime: Yeah

Christina: and giving it to them. 

Prime: Yeah. 

Christina: Cere started eating it. 

Prime: Okay. All right. So early in the- She's a very snacky cat. Yeah. ooh, cereal is not safe around me, that is for sure. So I [00:30:00] can understand. I just... It is the best combination of like sweet and crunchy, and I eat...

Anyway, a big fan of cereal. what is your favorite- What's your answer? well, pr- Oh, okay ... before I give my answer, real quick, what is your favorite cereal? 

Christina: the thing is- 

Prime: And do you eat cereal, 

Christina: I used to basically switch it up every couple of months, but like for quite a while now, I'm going to have to look up the English word for this, because I don't think I ever talked about this in English.

Prime: You're about 

Christina: Oatmeal is the word. Oh, okay. that's been like my go-to breakfast. What do- But I don't think that counts as a cereal. 

Prime: it's a hot cereal by definition, I guess. But what do you usually put in your oatmeal? 

Christina: I've been like eating a banana or nuts with it. but yeah, basically like whatever fruit or berries or [00:31:00] whatever I can find in my fridge.

Prime: shredded Mini Wheats. they're just like the little, They're frosted on one side with, like, some sugar shit. I don't know. but they're just, like, these little crunchy, things that soak up milk really well. yeah, big fan of those. We'll add cinnamon, we'll add peanut butter, we'll add all sorts of things that shouldn't go in cereal.

Christina: I think I had those, like, once. 

Prime: Don't 

Christina: think I've ever seen them in any s- grocery stores over here. 

Prime: I always answer the question myself thing I've been enjoying recently. hmm, not doom scrolling.

actually, like, taking some time away from, like, having my phone and, it's easy to get swept up in... 'Cause every day there's a new terrible headline. I mean, there was just one this past weekend, like, days ago. so it's so easy to just get sucked into the vortex of, "Man, the world is grim and shitty right now."

just leave my phone in another room and just go have some pleasant [00:32:00] hours with, you know, loved ones and just, you know, chill out for a little time. find some, some peace and, some home time, some feeling of being at home and at, at ease. I think that's the thing that we, maybe take for granted, at times, is just the being able to feel at peace.

Christina: Yeah. I'll second that. 

Prime: Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate the chance to have a chat and, have you on the show. If you could send me over a promo photo for the cover, whenever you have a moment, and, a logo if you've got one. this will come out probably next month.

yeah, in the next three to four weeks. 

Christina: All right. 

Prime: Okay. 

Christina: I'm looking forward to it. Oh, you were going to wrap up the episode. Oh, no. Go 

Prime: ahead. 

Christina: No, I was, like, going to, like, talk about, the recording. But, like, if you're going to wrap up the episode, do that first. 

Prime: I'm, just gonna go ahead and fade this out. But, yeah, again, thank you so much for your time and, for coming on. I do appreciate it. 

Christina: I'm the one to thank [00:33:00] you. Like, honestly, I wasn't expecting you to actually reply. 

Prime: Oh, really? Okay. 

Christina: Mm-hmm. And, I generally, like, th- that's part of the marketing thing I mentioned.

Mm-hmm. I hate texting people who I haven't talked to before. So it took me like quite a bit of, psyching myself up to like- Yeah ... send messages to a couple of people like, "Hey, you've got a podcast, you've got a playlist. Do you wanna feature our compilation?" 

Prime: and I, yeah, I read all my messages just 'cause I don't wanna miss something that might be cool like this.

So, yeah, thank you for reaching out. I'm really glad that you did, and, it's a pleasure to feature you on the show, and to talk about this. So yeah, thank you so much. okay, I'm gonna hit stop now, and, we're all set